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I think the first article I wrote about

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Epstein was 2015 2015 or 2014 I'd been

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aware of him a couple of years before

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that but I chose to write about it

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because it was actually I guess it was

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during the 2016 you know build up to the

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2016 election and you know I was just

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doing some of my deep dives and I came

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across the name Epstein again and you

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know I was looking into his little black

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book the Holy Grail is some of the

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attorneys have called it and you know of

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course noticed the names Clinton and

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Trump within this book and within you

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know the Nexus of Epstein and so I wrote

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and I have I wrote a school basically

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just digging into that and I think it

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was titled something like here's the one

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question the media won't ask the Clinton

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Clinton or Trump and it was kind of

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drawing them both into that circle and

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so that was the first official piece I'd

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put on it but then last fall I was

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actually doing some traveling over the

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summer and I ended up in Florida and I

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went to Epstein's house and I filmed a

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scene for what would end up being my

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documentary bringing down Jeffrey

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Epstein and it just happened to coincide

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with you know the research I was doing

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same time and being in the right place

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and then deciding well okay I'm gonna go

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ahead and really dig into this since I'm

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here in his you know his city or his

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town might as well just make a drive

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over there to Palm Beach and check it

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out and that ended up turning into my

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documentary bringing down Jeffrey

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Epstein which came out in October 2018

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about a month before the Miami Herald

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investigation right so based on all of

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your research who has more to fear about

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what's going to come from the Jeffrey

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Epstein investigation Clinton or Trump

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well you know I think they both probably

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have some concerns that you know this is

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something that unfortunately as I'm sure

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you're aware that this issue gets sucked

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into partisan politics like a lot of

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things do so you have you know the left

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maybe Clinton supporters or haters who

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are exclusively focused on you know his

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potential connections to knit to Epstein

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and then you have the other side the

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Trump supporters who would think that

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the Clintons are at the top of the

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pyramid and responsible for everything

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that believed you know they have more to

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lose I tend to think that well for one

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I'll say that we don't have all the

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details right so we have lots of pieces

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of the puzzle but we don't have any you

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know we don't have that final piece that

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can give us the clear picture where we

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can understand exactly what's going on

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we know that Clinton flew on the plane

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we know that Trump took at least one

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flight there we know these different

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tangential connections that exist right

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but I think ultimately since Trump is

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the president if the connections that

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seem to be there are accurate then as

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the president of United States he would

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probably have more to lose than say the

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Clintons who although they still wield a

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lot of influence in certain circles

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they're not you know they're not in a

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position of power so I would say yeah

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that if the something was revealed kind

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of drawing a closer picture between

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Trump and Epstein and he would be the

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one to have something to lose it is

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interesting as you point out you start

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digging into it in the as the 2016

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election or campaign was going on that

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Epstein did not come up more during that

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time period because me to movement was

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certainly in full swing at that time and

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you've got you know the the Trump

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comment you know they'll let you grab

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them by the you-know-what etc so you

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know here Epstein who was this convicted

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pedophile had given four million dollars

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to the Clinton Foundation the Clinton

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Foundation was already the center of a

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lot of attention and a lot of attacks

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and then you had you know lots of

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allegations of Trump spending time with

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Epstein but but yeah it seems like

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neither side really was was bringing it

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the Trump made after the election

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something like you know Clinton should

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be be on the lookout or something you

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know kind of like a but maybe a veiled

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threat but yeah I thought it was

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interesting that's why I decided to

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write that article because it's like

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who are the final players in the

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presidential election both who's both

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with connections to Epstein this

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powerful person as we understand now and

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yet you know neither one they're willing

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to attack each other on all kinds of

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other issues and all kinds of things but

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neither one of them went for the you

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know well I you were hanging out with

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the free Epstein and I assume it's

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because the other one could say and so

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were you yeah so yeah I I hate to have

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everything lined up being politics on

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one side versus the other but just to

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stick with that for a minute because

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there's is a big political component to

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it so you've got the fact that it was

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under the Bush administration that he

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originally got the light sentence both

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from the state and from the feds then

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you've got eight years of the Obama

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administration during which he could

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have been charged with what he just got

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charged with at any time during those

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eight years but he was ran scot-free

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apparently went back to his activities

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hanging out in New York and Palm Beach

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and then you get a Trump administration

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that ends up being the one bringing the

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heavy charges against him so heavy that

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it winds up in his deaths how do you

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analyze all that well I do think it's

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interesting to see like you kind of

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you know it's interesting that we

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haven't seen more of that drawn towards

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Epstein and as you said this the the

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original deal happened in 2008 with the

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investigation began 2005 when Bush was

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still president and in 2008 the the

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sentence and then as you said the

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silence during the Obama administration

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happening during the Trump

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administration you know I know that

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there are some who think that this is

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going after human trafficking and and

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things this sort I'm not so sure that

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that's the case you know I've done some

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recent reports looking into that claim

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and looking into the numbers of human

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trafficking and whether or not they've

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actually gone up or down I mean not

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because I care one way to be look Trump

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is you know this or Obama's better than

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him or whatever but just to look at the

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facts you know because there's a lot of

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claims that get thrown around online

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especially in relation to this Epstein

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case I can't tell you how many times I

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have to run behind commenters who are

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prove or disprove you know so I could

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only speculate as to why it would be

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happening now I mean some could say it's

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the pressure of you know the Weinsteins

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go into the speculation but I do think

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that there's reason to be suspicious of

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this entire operation of the entire

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arrest of Jeffrey Epstein leading to the

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suicide so in some ways it's hard to

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even know if any of this was a factual

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prosecution or maybe just another way to

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get Epstein out of the way whether that

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means like literally kill him give him a

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chance to kill himself or shuffle him

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obviously I'm just speculating here but

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seeing that there are so many people

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paying attention to Epstein because as I

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said I put the documentary out last

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October and it got a lot of attention

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immediately but obviously Epstein's name

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it's getting a lot more traffic right

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now and it's just recently passed over

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500,000 views on YouTube so it's getting

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a lot of a lot of eyes on it and I worry

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that that we're still not gonna get to

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the bottom of the picture you know the

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truth of the matter into the bottom of

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this is horrible story and all the

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there are calls of course of Barr says

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supposed to be an FBI investigation that

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investigation you got several different

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investigations going on as well as new

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unnamed co-conspirators and I hope that

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those are the things that that become

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the focus and that there is a push for

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maybe we never will but if we allow this

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story to be you know wrapped up and just

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focused on Epstein and then as I said to

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die with him then I think we're doing

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ourselves and the truth it does service

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so based on all your research if we

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this what do you think we're gonna find

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well so I'm not sure if you've seen any

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of my other documentaries but I did a

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documentary last year earlier this year

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excuse me that's called who will find

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what the finders hide and it's related

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to a cult called the finders which is a

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whole nother rabbit hole that we won't

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have time to get into today but the

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short version is basically it's a story

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of a cult that was pretty well known to

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be connected to the CIA and potentially

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other intelligence agencies that made

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mainstream news in 1987 and then again

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in 1993 and then it quickly disappeared

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and I haven't been able to specifically

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explicitly connect that group of people

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to Jeffrey Epstein but I do believe it's

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a part of the same issue that they're

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you know what we would find at the

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bottom of this rabbit hole I don't know

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if we would you know oh it's trumps or

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it's the Clintons or it's somebody else

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we haven't thought of it's Prince Andrew

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a lot of these different people who are

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involved whether they knew what was

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going on and they remain silent or they

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actively participated but I think the

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the the truth of this matter that some

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you know pedophile human trafficking

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networks that exist in this world and

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they're not all you know just criminal

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networks that some of these criminal law

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they're criminal networks but they're

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not just you know these common street

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criminals some of them are you know

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involving these high powerful

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high-profile powerful people politicians

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prime ministers wit elite maybe media

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folks scientifically Det cetera and that

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many of them are actively participating

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or you know benefiting from this and one

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way or the other that doesn't mean

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they're the ones who are going on the

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streets and taking the kids or you know

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trafficking themselves but perhaps

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they're benefiting from one way or

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another whether knowingly or unknowingly

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and I think that is a picture that has

293
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been told and you know the can the court

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on quote conspiracy theorists have been

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shouting this from the top of the hills

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for almost two decades now and maybe

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even longer than that and now it's

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starting to be understood more in the

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mainstream I mean even the fact that you

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look at mainstream news and there's a

301
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you know an understanding it's like a

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discussion on Jeffrey Epstein and saying

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did Epstein haven't odin's connections

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to me that is kind of mind-blowing

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itself that the

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mainstream is willing to even put that

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out there without immediately dismissing

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it because you know myself and others

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have been pointing to those potential

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intelligence connections with Epstein

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and others for more than a year and so

312
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it does seem like the window has shifted

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to some degree you know and I don't know

314
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if you've experienced this but it does

315
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seem like some of the things that I've

316
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been talking about for the last ten

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years - now that even this idea the fact

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that I can go talk to somebody and say

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hey did you know there's this you know

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crazy guy was involved in child

321
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trafficking and there's potential for

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politicians and this and that and I

323
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won't immediately get dismissed as crazy

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because now they've seen it on the TV or

325
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they've seen it in the mainstream yeah

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well they're talking about UFOs on

327
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mainstream now so that'll tell you yeah

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yeah me relating it to me to me to was

329
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something that hadn't made it to

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mainstream either frankly it seems so

331
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mainstream now but that me too movement

332
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wasn't being covered by the mainstream

333
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and now you know pedophilia which

334
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certainly wasn't being covered certainly

335
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appears it's gonna start getting covered

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let's go back to the to the finders I do

337
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you have some reason to connect Epstein

338
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with this cult you know there's a few

339
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pieces I don't want to point me to any

340
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fingers too early because I'm still

341
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investigating I did put out the document

342
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it's available for free it's called who

343
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will find what the finders hide it's a

344
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one-hour documentary where I actually

345
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interview an ex-member of this cults one

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of the the spokesman of the cult I

347
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reached out to the former police

348
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officers who wrote the the police

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reports describing you know find

350
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evidence of child trafficking and

351
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describing all these different things

352
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those officers particularly US Customs

353
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agent Raymond Martinez were later

354
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dismissed and you know reprimanded and

355
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made to look as if they lied and made

356
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the whole thing up and some of the folks

357
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back then who were blowing the whistle

358
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were congressman and others Charlie Rose

359
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and I can't remember that his first name

360
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but representative Lewis they're both

361
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passed now they're not around anymore

362
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but they were when they got wind of this

363
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they were calling for congressional

364
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investigations that documentation still

365
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exists and they were trying to push for

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a full on congressional investigation

367
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trying to get the other members of

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Congress to investigate it and there's a

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officer who I've been trying to locate

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his name is Scott

371
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from the retired from the Tallahassee

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Police Department who after the FBI and

373
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the CIA took over the investigation

374
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he continued to raise alarm bells and

375
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say that you know this was that there

376
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was a cover-up going on and he claimed

377
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specifically that the cover-up was in

378
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the FBI and then Raymond Martinez said

379
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that CIA had taken over the customs

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agency investigation so there are

381
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definitely fingers being pointed at

382
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certain agents within the FBI and the

383
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CIA and without getting into too many

384
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names at the moment because I don't want

385
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to just throw an accusation around I

386
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will say that a lot of you know several

387
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those people who were involved in those

388
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investigations are still around they're

389
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still alive

390
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they still some of them are still within

391
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those departments and the reason I think

392
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that that's important in relation to

393
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this Epstein stuff is because we're

394
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seeing that Epstein is not like the top

395
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of the pyramid in this whole operation

396
00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:15,810
he is if anything just one player and a

397
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web of other people that are going on

398
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and I see the same pattern and the same

399
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thing with the finders case so I do

400
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believe that if we continue to dig and

401
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hopefully get more information that

402
00:14:30,410 --> 00:14:28,650
there will probably be a time where we

403
00:14:32,329 --> 00:14:30,420
can say well look here's this person who

404
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perhaps was involved in this cover-up

405
00:14:37,550 --> 00:14:34,440
with the finders and they're still

406
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around operating the FBI maybe even

407
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active in the Epstein investigation and

408
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so as I said I don't want to like name

409
00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:42,540
any names at the moment but definitely I

410
00:14:46,730 --> 00:14:45,450
do think that if not a specific

411
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connection like somebody who was working

412
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with the finders and now his buddies

413
00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:52,500
with Epstein that the same networks what

414
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now deceased journalist Danny Castellano

415
00:14:59,840 --> 00:14:57,720
referred to as The Octopus these same

416
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networks are involved in these kind of

417
00:15:06,319 --> 00:15:02,810
activities based on what we've seen on

418
00:15:07,550 --> 00:15:06,329
the island the pedophile Island as they

419
00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:07,560
like to call it there's some weird

420
00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:09,930
things on there do you see some

421
00:15:13,610 --> 00:15:11,490
connection between those and in

422
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something that could be cultures such as

423
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the the gold dome etc yeah you know

424
00:15:20,930 --> 00:15:18,300
there are some interesting pieces of the

425
00:15:22,670 --> 00:15:20,940
puzzle with with the dome there that

426
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some sake looks like the temple on the

427
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Mount or its you know perhaps a you know

428
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a mosque or something and obviously we

429
00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:28,620
don't have those answers yet but I do

430
00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:31,529
think that when you do the research long

431
00:15:35,569 --> 00:15:32,970
enough as I'm sure you have that there

432
00:15:36,260 --> 00:15:35,579
does seem to be an element of what

433
00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:36,270
people refer to

434
00:15:39,890 --> 00:15:37,920
is the occult and you know when I'm

435
00:15:41,690 --> 00:15:39,900
saying this just to clarify for for

436
00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:41,700
myself when I'm speak of the occult you

437
00:15:44,780 --> 00:15:42,930
know I mean it in the truest sense of

438
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something that is hidden and so on the

439
00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:46,560
surface we have politicians and people

440
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:48,720
who parade themselves as you know

441
00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:50,490
god-fearing Christians or Catholics or

442
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what have you and they go to things like

443
00:15:57,620 --> 00:15:55,230
Bohemian Grove or they have their

444
00:16:01,160 --> 00:15:57,630
private clubs or they're different you

445
00:16:03,890 --> 00:16:01,170
know not so secret societies and you

446
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:03,900
know some would say that this is part of

447
00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:08,010
their effort to well to bring in

448
00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:10,110
something that that is again it's hidden

449
00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:12,210
it's in a cult to whether they're

450
00:16:15,770 --> 00:16:13,770
worshiping other deities you know this

451
00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:15,780
idea that they're worshiping other gods

452
00:16:20,030 --> 00:16:18,030
like Moloch or you know there's some

453
00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:20,040
owls on that epstein temple that people

454
00:16:22,730 --> 00:16:21,390
say oh look that's representative the

455
00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:22,740
god Moloch you know I read all these

456
00:16:26,750 --> 00:16:24,690
different things I take them in but I

457
00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:26,760
really don't think as a journalist I

458
00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:29,250
have the all the facts yet to say like

459
00:16:33,830 --> 00:16:31,320
100% sure Epstein was involved in some

460
00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:33,840
kind of a cult ritual or something you

461
00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:35,370
know those same accusations were thrown

462
00:16:38,570 --> 00:16:36,840
around with the finders case there was

463
00:16:41,330 --> 00:16:38,580
accusations of satanic worship and

464
00:16:42,950 --> 00:16:41,340
satanic rituals and things of that but I

465
00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:42,960
do see unfortunately that sometimes

466
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:44,910
these terms satanic and occult and

467
00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:47,610
esoteric get thrown around and I think

468
00:16:52,570 --> 00:16:49,740
commingled and maybe in a way that's not

469
00:16:55,490 --> 00:16:52,580
actually helpful to the conversation so

470
00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:55,500
there may be some truth to that but we

471
00:16:59,510 --> 00:16:57,600
haven't heard no none of the women who

472
00:17:00,800 --> 00:16:59,520
have spoken up that were you know

473
00:17:03,140 --> 00:17:00,810
involved with this who were being

474
00:17:04,970 --> 00:17:03,150
sexually abused by Epstein have said oh

475
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:04,980
they took me you know down to the bottom

476
00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:07,050
of the temple or I went underground and

477
00:17:09,949 --> 00:17:08,430
they know I know there's a lot of

478
00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:09,959
speculation online or how Epstein's

479
00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:11,370
island looks like there's tunnels and

480
00:17:16,820 --> 00:17:13,820
you know his one of his uh

481
00:17:18,530 --> 00:17:16,830
co-conspirators geez Lane Maxwell she's

482
00:17:21,050 --> 00:17:18,540
a submarine pilot and I saw this one

483
00:17:22,790 --> 00:17:21,060
recently on some forum saying oh well

484
00:17:24,170 --> 00:17:22,800
perhaps she was bringing the kids in on

485
00:17:26,180 --> 00:17:24,180
a submarine and they were going in

486
00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:26,190
underground it's like this is fun it's

487
00:17:29,870 --> 00:17:27,990
thought experiments but we don't have

488
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:29,880
the hard evidence to back it up mm-hmm

489
00:17:39,470 --> 00:17:33,890
what about the finders was that a

490
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:39,480
satanic group I so the way I explained

491
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:41,970
it is when I researched the finders

492
00:17:45,530 --> 00:17:43,890
there were three main accusations that

493
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:45,540
were made there was the accusation that

494
00:17:50,050 --> 00:17:47,730
there was human and human child sex

495
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:50,060
trafficking going on that they were say

496
00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:51,530
tannic Colts and then there was the

497
00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:53,360
accusations of intelligence connections

498
00:17:58,450 --> 00:17:56,450
and I would rank those in order of you

499
00:18:00,220 --> 00:17:58,460
know credibility and evidence in the

500
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:00,230
following way intelligence connections

501
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:03,170
clear obvious like the founder was a

502
00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:04,850
former the founder of the finders Marion

503
00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:07,430
petty a very mysterious unknown man

504
00:18:11,530 --> 00:18:09,830
former Navy intelligence the human

505
00:18:13,090 --> 00:18:11,540
trafficking the sex trafficking pretty

506
00:18:14,770 --> 00:18:13,100
clear evidence that that was going on as

507
00:18:16,300 --> 00:18:14,780
well then when it comes to the claims of

508
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:16,310
the satanic rituals and things of that

509
00:18:22,410 --> 00:18:18,290
those are based on two different things

510
00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:22,420
one of the reports discusses finding a

511
00:18:26,860 --> 00:18:25,280
circle of stones behind the the finders

512
00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:26,870
apartment scum complex because they

513
00:18:30,010 --> 00:18:28,130
raided they had a bunch of buildings in

514
00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:30,020
the DC area and Maryland and Virginia

515
00:18:33,310 --> 00:18:31,850
and so they raided their apartment

516
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:33,320
complex they raided a farm that they had

517
00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:35,210
they raided a couple of warehouses and

518
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:36,710
behind one of the warehouse was the

519
00:18:39,850 --> 00:18:38,330
trail that went out into the field and

520
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:39,860
there was a circle of stones that they

521
00:18:43,900 --> 00:18:42,080
found the finders claimed this was just

522
00:18:45,970 --> 00:18:43,910
them making a fire pit you know which

523
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,980
sounds reasonable enough there wasn't

524
00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:47,840
any other than that reference to stones

525
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:49,220
I didn't there wasn't anything like we

526
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,170
found a giant pentagram or you know

527
00:18:56,530 --> 00:18:52,880
something there was a baby sacrificed

528
00:18:57,820 --> 00:18:56,540
there was also reports that are there

529
00:18:59,440 --> 00:18:57,830
was pictures described by Raymond

530
00:19:01,960 --> 00:18:59,450
Martinez which have you know they've

531
00:19:03,850 --> 00:19:01,970
been lost apparently describing the

532
00:19:04,450 --> 00:19:03,860
children and the adults standing in a

533
00:19:06,790 --> 00:19:04,460
circle

534
00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:06,800
wearing white robes and the children

535
00:19:11,470 --> 00:19:08,720
were being taught how to butcher a goat

536
00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:11,480
and so this was interpreted by some to

537
00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:13,520
be like a ritualistic sacrifice and

538
00:19:17,380 --> 00:19:15,710
that's one way to look at it the you

539
00:19:20,350 --> 00:19:17,390
know the other way to look at it is you

540
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:20,360
know these people they claimed that they

541
00:19:23,410 --> 00:19:21,530
were basically like the early

542
00:19:24,820 --> 00:19:23,420
progenitors of homeschooling and

543
00:19:26,890 --> 00:19:24,830
unschooling and you know they wanted to

544
00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:26,900
give the kids a really you know a first

545
00:19:29,860 --> 00:19:28,550
hand life experience and so I mean

546
00:19:31,870 --> 00:19:29,870
there's probably plenty of people who

547
00:19:33,250 --> 00:19:31,880
have grown up learning how to kill and

548
00:19:34,660 --> 00:19:33,260
to butcher and to skin an animal I mean

549
00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:34,670
not all of us grow up in that lifestyle

550
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:37,760
but that's not necessarily evidence of a

551
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:39,710
satanic ritual the finders claim that

552
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:41,810
the robes they were they were wearing

553
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:43,730
were just white sheets in order to

554
00:19:47,650 --> 00:19:45,200
protect them from the blood spatter but

555
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:47,660
you know I guess it depends on what how

556
00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:49,280
you interpret that you know the the

557
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:50,720
children there's pictures of the

558
00:19:54,970 --> 00:19:53,840
children holding animals and trails and

559
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:54,980
you know things like that one of them I

560
00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:56,690
think was described as crying and stuff

561
00:20:00,520 --> 00:19:58,490
like that so it depends on how you

562
00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:00,530
interpret that but again for me a circle

563
00:20:04,730 --> 00:20:03,270
of stones and a go butchering are not

564
00:20:06,020 --> 00:20:04,740
say like this is a satanic cult but I

565
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:06,030
can say yeah there's pretty strong

566
00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:07,290
evidence that they were trafficking

567
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,760
where they were involved in some sort of

568
00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:10,880
trafficking they had essentially a

569
00:20:15,530 --> 00:20:12,990
high-speed Ethernet internet back in

570
00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:15,540
1987 they were communicating messages

571
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:17,070
and they had a network of people all

572
00:20:20,270 --> 00:20:18,570
around the world which they claimed was

573
00:20:22,460 --> 00:20:20,280
just a network of journalists and that

574
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,470
the name the finders came from them

575
00:20:27,260 --> 00:20:24,240
being good investigators and collecting

576
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:27,270
finders fees so you know I like I said

577
00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:29,250
on that scale I would put the satanic

578
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:32,100
ritual satanic cults claims to be the

579
00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:35,730
lowest with evidence so Epstein you

580
00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:37,830
don't believe he's the head of the snake

581
00:20:42,590 --> 00:20:39,960
you believe that it goes higher than

582
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:42,600
Epstein yeah I would say so I mean the

583
00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:45,600
more so for anybody's interested you can

584
00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:46,740
visit my youtube channel it's the

585
00:20:49,220 --> 00:20:47,940
conscious resistance that we have an

586
00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:49,230
Epstein playlist that has the

587
00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:50,670
documentary bringing down Jeffrey

588
00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:52,470
Epstein as well as all the different

589
00:20:56,750 --> 00:20:54,390
angles that I've explored of this you

590
00:20:58,970 --> 00:20:56,760
know including did Trump kick Epstein

591
00:21:00,050 --> 00:20:58,980
out of mar-a-lago is Epstein an israeli

592
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:00,060
mossad agent you know all these

593
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:01,260
different pieces of puzzles and these

594
00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:03,210
claims that again I see repeated often

595
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:05,310
online and sometimes I feel inspired

596
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,930
enough to like okay well I've heard that

597
00:21:10,460 --> 00:21:08,640
a bunch of times let me go look into it

598
00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:10,470
and see if there's truth to it or if

599
00:21:13,850 --> 00:21:11,880
it's not let me put out a video and say

600
00:21:16,850 --> 00:21:13,860
hey guys this is a bunch of baloney stop

601
00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:16,860
repeating it and the more that I looked

602
00:21:20,410 --> 00:21:18,870
into this and started to see these other

603
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:20,420
pieces of puzzle it's pretty clear that

604
00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:23,490
Epstein was you know for one reason or

605
00:21:28,610 --> 00:21:26,280
another he was he was in this position

606
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:28,620
he had money which we still don't really

607
00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:30,330
understand the complete source of his

608
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,710
wealth we know that a lot of his wealth

609
00:21:34,940 --> 00:21:33,840
came from Leslie Wexner who's the head

610
00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:34,950
of the limited brand which owns

611
00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:37,350
Victoria's Secret and fashion shows and

612
00:21:41,810 --> 00:21:39,510
things of that sort we know all about

613
00:21:43,070 --> 00:21:41,820
his relationships to other powerful

614
00:21:44,420 --> 00:21:43,080
people and that for some reason or

615
00:21:46,730 --> 00:21:44,430
another they all chose to come to him

616
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:46,740
and then he's got this right-hand woman

617
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:48,810
his Madame his procure of young girls

618
00:21:53,150 --> 00:21:50,850
geez Layne Maxwell who is the daughter

619
00:21:54,670 --> 00:21:53,160
of Robert Maxwell former British tycoon

620
00:21:57,410 --> 00:21:54,680
and you know all he's got all his

621
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,420
potential KGB and Israeli connections

622
00:22:01,220 --> 00:21:59,520
and her whole family is a web of

623
00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:01,230
mysteries the more you look and dig into

624
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,500
that and I honestly think that more than

625
00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:06,240
likely her and her family and whoever

626
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,830
they're working for which there are some

627
00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:09,360
pretty strong Israeli connections

628
00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:11,400
between Leslie Wexler who again is the

629
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:13,380
guy who gave Epstein his mansion in New

630
00:22:17,299 --> 00:22:15,570
York and was according to most sources

631
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:17,309
the actual source of EPs

632
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:20,970
well and Jala Maxwell both of those

633
00:22:26,299 --> 00:22:23,730
pieces of the puzzle point to Israeli

634
00:22:28,669 --> 00:22:26,309
intelligence and you know sum up

635
00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:28,679
somebody else some bigger agency or

636
00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:31,080
force behind them so if anything I think

637
00:22:36,049 --> 00:22:33,830
Epstein was was a face or a figurehead

638
00:22:37,249 --> 00:22:36,059
but only a part of the puzzle I

639
00:22:39,769 --> 00:22:37,259
definitely don't think that you know

640
00:22:44,169 --> 00:22:39,779
Epstein is is at the very top of this

641
00:22:47,180 --> 00:22:44,179
pyramid but the pyramid that primary

642
00:22:50,029 --> 00:22:47,190
objective is what is it simply

643
00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:50,039
pedophilia or is it a blackmail thing is

644
00:22:56,029 --> 00:22:52,860
it a mossad thing what do you think well

645
00:22:57,889 --> 00:22:56,039
if we go with the you know the

646
00:22:59,989 --> 00:22:57,899
circumstantial evidence and the the

647
00:23:02,090 --> 00:22:59,999
various connections to Israel and the

648
00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:02,100
potential Mossad connections we know

649
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:03,960
that the Israeli Mossad and I would

650
00:23:07,369 --> 00:23:05,490
assume that the CIA and other agencies

651
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:07,379
do this as well but we definitely know

652
00:23:13,489 --> 00:23:10,610
for certain that the Israeli Mossad is

653
00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:13,499
is involved and has and has discussed

654
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:16,440
the practice of using blackmail to you

655
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:19,679
know go after their enemies so I mean it

656
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:21,570
you got Epstein surrounded by all these

657
00:23:25,639 --> 00:23:23,730
famous people private island all these

658
00:23:29,180 --> 00:23:25,649
different claims of abuse in New York

659
00:23:31,820 --> 00:23:29,190
and Paris and New Mexico and Florida etc

660
00:23:34,879 --> 00:23:31,830
and you've got people surrounding him

661
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:34,889
who seem like they're working for Israel

662
00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:37,440
in one form or another and there are

663
00:23:40,909 --> 00:23:38,940
women saying that when they would go

664
00:23:42,619 --> 00:23:40,919
visit with the different people that he

665
00:23:44,330 --> 00:23:42,629
had them have sex with her do different

666
00:23:45,409 --> 00:23:44,340
things with that he would debrief them

667
00:23:46,909 --> 00:23:45,419
afterwards and he would come back and

668
00:23:48,919 --> 00:23:46,919
say okay tell me all about this guy what

669
00:23:52,639 --> 00:23:48,929
were his you know fetishes what was he

670
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:52,649
into and you know there's even the claim

671
00:23:57,379 --> 00:23:54,809
that on the island that there was hidden

672
00:23:58,820 --> 00:23:57,389
cameras at least one of the women has

673
00:24:00,850 --> 00:23:58,830
said that there was cameras in on the

674
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,860
island and in the rooms and stuff so

675
00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:03,600
there's I think that's a big potential

676
00:24:08,299 --> 00:24:05,789
that this was a blackmailing Network

677
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:08,309
maybe you know back to the occult thing

678
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:10,710
maybe there is some other kind of big

679
00:24:15,019 --> 00:24:13,200
picture about the the occult and the the

680
00:24:17,570 --> 00:24:15,029
using of children and this and these

681
00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:17,580
sort of practices and I have those kind

682
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:19,230
of conversations you know like on the

683
00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:20,730
side of a dinner party or something but

684
00:24:22,940 --> 00:24:21,809
you know for an interview where I'm

685
00:24:24,649 --> 00:24:22,950
putting my credibility on the line I

686
00:24:26,779 --> 00:24:24,659
don't want to go too far along on that

687
00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:26,789
you know that aspect but I do think at

688
00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:29,100
the heart of it at the at the most basic

689
00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:30,750
level it does seem to be a blackmail

690
00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:31,240
Network

691
00:24:35,130 --> 00:24:33,190
now there might be other secondary

692
00:24:36,539 --> 00:24:35,140
reasons going on why this activities

693
00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:36,549
taking place but I think it's pretty

694
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:38,140
clear that there was some kind of

695
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:40,720
blackmail network happening and where

696
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:42,510
you believe he was actually getting paid

697
00:24:46,769 --> 00:24:45,130
Epstein was getting paid to to blackmail

698
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:46,779
people and that could be the sort of the

699
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:48,250
real source of it as well that could be

700
00:24:52,740 --> 00:24:50,529
why people have such a hard time tracing

701
00:24:54,419 --> 00:24:52,750
down you know actual transactions and

702
00:24:55,860 --> 00:24:54,429
there's you know he you mentioned the

703
00:24:58,139 --> 00:24:55,870
the Clinton Foundation earlier at one

704
00:24:59,730 --> 00:24:58,149
point in the past Epstein claimed to be

705
00:25:03,440 --> 00:24:59,740
the co-founder of the Clinton Foundation

706
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:03,450
so you have you know you have a mix of

707
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,850
of sources of wealth for him and it's

708
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:08,320
not easily penned down it's like okay

709
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:09,730
well he worked for Bear Stearns and then

710
00:25:12,419 --> 00:25:11,020
he did a great deal and that's where he

711
00:25:15,539 --> 00:25:12,429
made his millions or something like that

712
00:25:17,460 --> 00:25:15,549
so it you know the the potential was

713
00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:17,470
there that he was being paid for this

714
00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:20,830
you know I don't maybe for him you know

715
00:25:24,419 --> 00:25:23,080
missing around these young girls was

716
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,429
enough maybe that's what he got his

717
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:27,520
jollies from and they basically said you

718
00:25:30,810 --> 00:25:28,720
know it could be something along lines

719
00:25:33,779 --> 00:25:30,820
of like hey you run our network you help

720
00:25:35,610 --> 00:25:33,789
us entrap these different people and you

721
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:35,620
know we'll feed your sick desires old

722
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:36,850
feed your you know whatever you want

723
00:25:40,110 --> 00:25:38,110
you're allowed to do whatever we'll give

724
00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:40,120
you work we'll give you money will

725
00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:41,980
supply you with the team of people

726
00:25:45,539 --> 00:25:44,230
around you what have you again we don't

727
00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:45,549
know these details yet and I think

728
00:25:48,750 --> 00:25:46,840
that's to me the big concern is that

729
00:25:51,149 --> 00:25:48,760
it's not that we won't get to those

730
00:25:52,409 --> 00:25:51,159
details because well there's a cover-up

731
00:25:53,730 --> 00:25:52,419
going on I mean that's just the reality

732
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:53,740
there's a cover-up going on even when

733
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:56,080
the the mainstream the dead stream media

734
00:26:00,750 --> 00:25:58,210
is questioning this and when you have

735
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,760
mainstream folk saying hey I don't know

736
00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:02,799
if we've actually got to the the bottom

737
00:26:06,450 --> 00:26:04,630
of it then you know I think it's

738
00:26:08,669 --> 00:26:06,460
important for us to to keep asking

739
00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:08,679
questions and I will say also that I

740
00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:10,990
think that and this is more just a

741
00:26:14,909 --> 00:26:13,270
personal point that I do think that some

742
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:14,919
people are becoming obsessive about this

743
00:26:19,409 --> 00:26:17,770
and in my work as a journalist and as a

744
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:19,419
youtuber and doing all this kind of

745
00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:21,370
stuff I see it I see it very clearly

746
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:23,260
that people are obsessed with this this

747
00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:24,850
case and of course there's a lot of

748
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:26,950
pieces to the puzzle but what I have

749
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:28,690
experienced is that for some folks it

750
00:26:33,149 --> 00:26:31,690
becomes just another you know it's I've

751
00:26:35,159 --> 00:26:33,159
heard it referred to as infotainment

752
00:26:37,139 --> 00:26:35,169
Orkin spirit Ament you know they're

753
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:37,149
drawn to the kind of drama of this all

754
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:39,250
this you know like we people watch car

755
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:40,240
wrecks so that you know you want to

756
00:26:43,019 --> 00:26:41,529
watch the train wreck people are drawn

757
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:43,029
to that as opposed to seeking the

758
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,770
solutions to these problems more

759
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,480
people are drawn to you know they'll

760
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:48,400
watch and listen to any video as long as

761
00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:50,380
it's digesting the minutiae of epstein

762
00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:51,820
and again we're obviously we're doing

763
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:54,040
that right now it's not important but I

764
00:26:58,890 --> 00:26:56,050
do worry that some folks get so wrapped

765
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:58,900
up into this you know this picture of it

766
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:01,120
that you know I don't know I just worry

767
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,950
about what that does to us does it help

768
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:04,480
us move the ball forward is it actually

769
00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:06,370
going to help bring down other people is

770
00:27:10,860 --> 00:27:08,470
it going to help expose other people in

771
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,870
this network or is it just feeding into

772
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:13,360
our desire to be a part of that drama

773
00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:15,520
yeah well you know we need to know the

774
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:17,260
truth and then once we know the truth

775
00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:20,320
and we know how we can react to it and

776
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:22,360
what could be put in place to stop this

777
00:27:25,290 --> 00:27:24,370
in the future and so forth you know what

778
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:25,300
is the truth behind

779
00:27:29,970 --> 00:27:27,610
epstein who was behind all this who was

780
00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:29,980
involved in it and so on but yeah while

781
00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:31,960
we were still waiting for that truth

782
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:34,150
people are gonna fill that void with all

783
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:36,130
kinds of speculation and conspiracy and

784
00:27:41,850 --> 00:27:38,410
so on and and that's what probably is

785
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:41,860
not particularly healthy you know we do

786
00:27:47,730 --> 00:27:45,010
sort of need to sit back and wait for

787
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:47,740
the facts to come through hoping that in

788
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:50,710
fact they do come through what probably

789
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:52,630
gives us some hope is the fact that

790
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:54,610
these charges were brought against

791
00:27:59,730 --> 00:27:56,410
epstein because as we talked about for

792
00:28:02,280 --> 00:27:59,740
eight years nobody did anything so if

793
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:02,290
this administration was willing to bring

794
00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:05,050
these charges against Epstein which was

795
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:08,230
reopening a huge can of worms then

796
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:10,090
presumably they're interested in getting

797
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:12,370
to the bottom of it one could hope you

798
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:15,010
know and I think that it is promising I

799
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:18,040
mean it's on one hand I completely

800
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:19,810
understand why people have such little

801
00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:21,580
faith in any of these systems political

802
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,230
systems authority figures because I mean

803
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:24,880
come on like once you get into this

804
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:26,800
particular world and you start to

805
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:28,840
research what's really going on in our

806
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:30,310
world and you understand how many times

807
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:31,930
the American people and the people of

808
00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:33,190
the world have been lied to by

809
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:34,590
governments and by people in authority

810
00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:37,210
it's pretty you know it's understandable

811
00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:40,030
why people have just like have trouble

812
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:41,740
accepting anything you know I have some

813
00:28:44,460 --> 00:28:43,270
folks who follow my work that anything

814
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:44,470
that comes out of the mainstream's mouth

815
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:46,270
they're not going to believe or they

816
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:47,530
immediately think that there must be

817
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:49,570
some you know there's a there's a

818
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:51,010
double-edged sword there's a reason

819
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:52,480
they're giving this and perhaps they're

820
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:54,730
right but again we can only speculate

821
00:28:58,620 --> 00:28:57,250
about that I do think it's promising if

822
00:29:00,810 --> 00:28:58,630
we do Trust is where

823
00:29:03,390 --> 00:29:00,820
and of course time will tell for bar to

824
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,400
say that for attorney general bar to say

825
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:05,440
that the co-conspirators should not rest

826
00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:07,210
easy because again I think that should

827
00:29:11,970 --> 00:29:09,430
be the main focus now someone might

828
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:11,980
argue as well one could argue that you

829
00:29:15,150 --> 00:29:13,510
know as far as like well why would this

830
00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:15,160
administration you know lead the charge

831
00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:16,990
and and choose to be the ones to do it

832
00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:19,270
well perhaps it could be to be the ones

833
00:29:22,770 --> 00:29:21,190
to be in control of the investigation

834
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:22,780
and to direct it one way or the other

835
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:25,450
so if Trump does have any Trump Ernie of

836
00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:28,000
his associates have any ties to this you

837
00:29:31,890 --> 00:29:29,740
know by leading the investigation you

838
00:29:33,690 --> 00:29:31,900
could direct it in a way that is

839
00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:33,700
favorable to you now

840
00:29:36,810 --> 00:29:34,780
we don't know if that's what's gonna

841
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:36,820
happen you know yet we'll have to wait

842
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:38,950
and see but yeah and I can understand

843
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:40,180
why people have so little faith and

844
00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:43,450
these calls for an investigation well

845
00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:45,870
and then the ultimate conspiracy that

846
00:29:51,810 --> 00:29:48,190
most people are tracking is what

847
00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:51,820
happened to him in prison and I'm

848
00:29:56,250 --> 00:29:55,030
someone that is suspicious of what

849
00:29:57,930 --> 00:29:56,260
happened because you wonder gee why

850
00:30:00,510 --> 00:29:57,940
would he kill himself when he was able

851
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:00,520
to beat the charges in Florida and why

852
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:01,750
wouldn't he be confident that he could

853
00:30:07,530 --> 00:30:05,110
beat him again but until someone can

854
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:07,540
describe for me a scenario that passes

855
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:10,090
the straight-faced us as to how it's

856
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:12,000
possible that he could have been killed

857
00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:15,190
in prison under the under those

858
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:17,560
circumstances I just can't go there I'd

859
00:30:21,870 --> 00:30:19,990
be a you know I just know don't be laid

860
00:30:23,610 --> 00:30:21,880
out of scenario for me as to how that

861
00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:23,620
could have happened well and I'd like to

862
00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:24,820
add to that because you're right this is

863
00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:26,350
like a really you know that if if

864
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:28,030
there's any area we should be dissecting

865
00:30:31,230 --> 00:30:29,410
it's like well what happened in the jail

866
00:30:32,550 --> 00:30:31,240
you know on one hand again like Epstein

867
00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:32,560
is just one piece of puzzle there are

868
00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:34,660
other networks of this that exist and I

869
00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:35,950
think it's important for us to get into

870
00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:37,630
this but hey why we have a moment and

871
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:38,800
the mainstream is willing to have this

872
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:40,690
conversation for once I've been

873
00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:42,340
encouraging you know my supporters like

874
00:30:46,020 --> 00:30:44,260
hey don't just sit on the sidelines you

875
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:46,030
have friends and family who are for the

876
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:48,070
first time in their lives maybe hearing

877
00:30:52,590 --> 00:30:50,350
about human trafficking networks that

878
00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:52,600
potentially involve politicians and and

879
00:30:56,370 --> 00:30:54,550
high places that presents an opportunity

880
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,380
to have this conversation and to bring

881
00:31:01,520 --> 00:30:58,480
this to their attention now as far as

882
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:01,530
the the particulars on Epstein's

883
00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:03,790
situation you know how could a suicide

884
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:06,580
have happened I want to point your

885
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:07,750
attention if you haven't seen this yet

886
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:08,770
there was an article that just came out

887
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:10,930
I think yesterday or the day before I

888
00:31:14,370 --> 00:31:12,250
believe is the New York

889
00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:14,380
but it was based on some court documents

890
00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:17,260
that were filed and on Tuesday and so

891
00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:20,080
Epstein's cellmate at the time of the

892
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:22,060
first alleged suicide attempt

893
00:31:30,570 --> 00:31:28,210
back in July was I'm not really good at

894
00:31:32,010 --> 00:31:30,580
pronouncing his name he's I got a strong

895
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:32,020
Italian last name but he's basically

896
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:34,360
this former cop who was who was actually

897
00:31:39,450 --> 00:31:37,240
in on death row accused of four

898
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:39,460
different murders and so he's you know

899
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:41,290
kind of a dirty cop who's awaiting the

900
00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:43,450
death penalty death penalty charges and

901
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:45,700
he's got his whole other like you know

902
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:47,170
web of things going on that people could

903
00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:48,970
go down that rabbit hole but it was not

904
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:50,740
interesting that this guy who again was

905
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:52,420
obviously a dirty cop who's accused of

906
00:31:56,490 --> 00:31:53,890
murder and I think has been found guilty

907
00:31:58,110 --> 00:31:56,500
already his name's Nicholas it's hard to

908
00:32:01,380 --> 00:31:58,120
Leon I'm sure I'm pronouncing the

909
00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:01,390
Italian last name wrong but he was

910
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:03,430
Epstein's cellmate and initially when

911
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:05,200
that first suicide attempt happened

912
00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:06,430
whenever they said they found Epstein

913
00:32:11,850 --> 00:32:09,040
with you know abrasions on his neck

914
00:32:14,610 --> 00:32:11,860
Epstein's lawyers claimed that Nicholas

915
00:32:16,410 --> 00:32:14,620
was the one who attacked him and then

916
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:16,420
there was other claims saying that no

917
00:32:20,850 --> 00:32:18,130
Nicholas actually saved him and stopped

918
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:20,860
Epstein from killing himself so that was

919
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:22,270
kind of going on the background and then

920
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:23,410
you know Epstein gets put on suicide

921
00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:25,810
watch and then in the days before his

922
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:27,340
death they take him off suicide watch

923
00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:29,170
the court documents get released and you

924
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:30,400
know we've heard all these details he

925
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:31,930
had a visit from some unknown woman

926
00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:33,700
before his death and all these different

927
00:32:39,150 --> 00:32:35,980
things and then they find him dead

928
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:39,160
supposedly well on Tuesday Bruce Barkat

929
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:41,050
who's the attorney for Nicholas target

930
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:43,630
Leon the the cop he files court

931
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:45,340
documents basically asking them

932
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:47,200
requesting that they removed Nicholas

933
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:49,060
from the MCC because he's claiming that

934
00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:51,010
he's being threatened by the guards and

935
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:53,140
they're telling him that they're gonna

936
00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:55,330
punish him if he doesn't shut up like

937
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:56,860
this is in court documents are filed on

938
00:33:00,450 --> 00:32:58,210
Tuesday so I've tried to get in touch

939
00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:00,460
the lawyer I sent him an email yesterday

940
00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:02,470
and left a voicemail trying to see if I

941
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:03,670
can hear anything back and get any more

942
00:33:07,650 --> 00:33:06,130
details but essentially yeah he's

943
00:33:09,870 --> 00:33:07,660
calling he's trying to get the judge to

944
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:09,880
move his client not only because this

945
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:11,290
place is apparently infested with

946
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:13,120
rodents and roaches and all that and

947
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:16,240
just a horrible place to be in but he's

948
00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:18,370
claiming that he's being threatened by

949
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:20,560
the jail guards because of what he saw

950
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:23,440
or what he knows so that itself to me

951
00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:24,910
isn't as an interesting important

952
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:25,990
development

953
00:33:28,889 --> 00:33:27,760
I'm gonna keep my eye on that and see

954
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,899
like I said if I can get in touch with

955
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:30,399
the attorney and find anything else out

956
00:33:34,169 --> 00:33:32,799
because I mean there is the potential

957
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,179
whether he was still housed with Hep C

958
00:33:39,019 --> 00:33:36,159
nor in the cell right next to him or

959
00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:39,029
what have you that he saw something and

960
00:33:42,810 --> 00:33:41,320
you know maybe in the interest of saving

961
00:33:47,399 --> 00:33:42,820
his own ass he might be willing to speak

962
00:33:48,899 --> 00:33:47,409
up yeah well you you you you do have the

963
00:33:50,909 --> 00:33:48,909
fact though that the coronor is it

964
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:50,919
coroner's coming out with saying that he

965
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:54,730
did die of suicide and I think it's said

966
00:33:57,930 --> 00:33:56,080
Michael boughten is that the guy his

967
00:34:02,190 --> 00:33:57,940
name is the former oj guy who was also

968
00:34:03,899 --> 00:34:02,200
the assisting that the coroner so if he

969
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:03,909
was killed and you also have to come up

970
00:34:08,099 --> 00:34:05,529
with an explanation as to why are they

971
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:08,109
ruling the cause of death suicide well

972
00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:09,280
the guy you're talking about Michael

973
00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:11,230
Baden abate and I'm not sure he

974
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:12,760
pronounced it he he said he was involved

975
00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:14,530
with the OJ case he was also involved

976
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:17,230
with the investigation into JFK not the

977
00:34:20,099 --> 00:34:18,609
original investigation but I think the

978
00:34:22,889 --> 00:34:20,109
investigation that continued into the

979
00:34:26,369 --> 00:34:22,899
80s and his part in that was basically

980
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:26,379
to promote the the what you know was

981
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:27,970
referred to as the Magic Bullet theory

982
00:34:30,510 --> 00:34:29,619
where he says that it was a single shot

983
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:30,520
that killed JFK

984
00:34:34,379 --> 00:34:32,470
and I think for most people who look

985
00:34:36,419 --> 00:34:34,389
down that particular rabbit hole that

986
00:34:38,430 --> 00:34:36,429
Siri has been debunked and most most

987
00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:38,440
Americans don't buy that line of

988
00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:40,389
thinking but he was involved in

989
00:34:43,470 --> 00:34:42,070
essentially reinforcing that line of

990
00:34:45,899 --> 00:34:43,480
thought and saying yes he was killed by

991
00:34:47,339 --> 00:34:45,909
a single bullet so for some folks that

992
00:34:48,990 --> 00:34:47,349
you know is a fishy thing I go here

993
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:49,000
comes this guy involved in high-profile

994
00:34:52,530 --> 00:34:50,530
cases like that and they put him on the

995
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:52,540
Epstein case and they were what a

996
00:34:57,630 --> 00:34:55,690
suicide now I mean again we basically

997
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:57,640
have to at this point you know we're

998
00:35:01,260 --> 00:34:59,920
left with this is what the coroner says

999
00:35:02,820 --> 00:35:01,270
this is what the you know I would like

1000
00:35:04,650 --> 00:35:02,830
for the public to get the full autopsy

1001
00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:04,660
report you know so we can get everything

1002
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:05,980
and see everything we still haven't seen

1003
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:08,410
that and then for people to make up

1004
00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:09,880
their own minds I doubt that will happen

1005
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:13,540
but unless we are going to you know we

1006
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:14,560
basically have two choices you either

1007
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:16,000
believe what they say or you don't I

1008
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:17,290
mean that's it you either believe what

1009
00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:18,310
they say and this is where they're

1010
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:19,960
concluding it was a suicide so you can

1011
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,550
accept that and some would say well look

1012
00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:23,680
10 years ago when Epstein got locked up

1013
00:35:28,050 --> 00:35:25,750
he was allowed to leave for 16 hours a

1014
00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:28,060
day they left his jail sail open all the

1015
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:30,790
time they brought in a TV just for him

1016
00:35:35,609 --> 00:35:32,890
you know he was pampered he apparently

1017
00:35:36,839 --> 00:35:35,619
he had all the guards wear suits when

1018
00:35:38,220 --> 00:35:36,849
they were around him and they you know

1019
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:38,230
they took him to his office they took

1020
00:35:40,829 --> 00:35:39,369
him home he

1021
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,839
they let him by we learned just the

1022
00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:42,160
other day from the Miami Herald they let

1023
00:35:46,289 --> 00:35:44,619
him buy female panties you know while he

1024
00:35:47,849 --> 00:35:46,299
was locked up in there so he's being

1025
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:47,859
treated that way 10 years ago in Florida

1026
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:51,369
and now they got him in this hype you

1027
00:35:55,980 --> 00:35:53,710
know high-profile supermax prison that's

1028
00:35:58,109 --> 00:35:55,990
known for the horrible conditions with

1029
00:36:00,599 --> 00:35:58,119
overcrowding and disease and in Roatan

1030
00:36:01,890 --> 00:36:00,609
infestation so it's a big change from it

1031
00:36:03,299 --> 00:36:01,900
so some who do believe the suicide

1032
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:03,309
theory you're saying we'll look I mean

1033
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:06,490
he knew that his his time was up that he

1034
00:36:10,349 --> 00:36:08,650
was about to be exposed he's not used to

1035
00:36:12,749 --> 00:36:10,359
apparently he was eating food off the

1036
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:12,759
ground and this is again if we believe

1037
00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:14,200
the reports none of us really know but

1038
00:36:18,359 --> 00:36:16,660
this is what the reports say and so you

1039
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:18,369
could say you could argue that well yeah

1040
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:20,470
he was he knew that it was over his days

1041
00:36:23,609 --> 00:36:21,970
were over and he was you know dealing

1042
00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:23,619
with conditions that he could not handle

1043
00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:25,240
and so he chose to take his own life

1044
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:27,190
that's one claim that's one potential

1045
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,680
that's what the authorities are kind of

1046
00:36:33,269 --> 00:36:31,359
pointing at but I think I'm gonna

1047
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:33,279
continue to dig into this and this claim

1048
00:36:36,420 --> 00:36:35,230
from his former cellmate and see if

1049
00:36:37,799 --> 00:36:36,430
anything comes out of that and maybe

1050
00:36:40,019 --> 00:36:37,809
nothing will but I do think it's

1051
00:36:41,609 --> 00:36:40,029
important to dissect that well

1052
00:36:44,309 --> 00:36:41,619
presumably he suffer from some

1053
00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:44,319
psychiatric condition considering what

1054
00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:45,940
he was involved in have you done much

1055
00:36:54,539 --> 00:36:50,009
research into his childhood or what

1056
00:36:56,309 --> 00:36:54,549
psychiatric issues he may have had you

1057
00:36:57,749 --> 00:36:56,319
know I've done a little bit just you

1058
00:36:59,130 --> 00:36:57,759
know the basic stuff that have talked

1059
00:37:00,569 --> 00:36:59,140
about it like where he where he came

1060
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:00,579
from but pretty much it seems like the

1061
00:37:03,809 --> 00:37:02,170
story of what we know about Epstein kind

1062
00:37:05,819 --> 00:37:03,819
of picks up with him you know getting

1063
00:37:07,049 --> 00:37:05,829
hired as a teacher we really at least as

1064
00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:07,059
far as I know we know about his brother

1065
00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:09,400
mark but mark Epstein has pretty much

1066
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:10,900
been a supporter of his brother and I

1067
00:37:15,390 --> 00:37:12,970
don't think he's out there trying to you

1068
00:37:18,539 --> 00:37:15,400
know speak out and expose his own his

1069
00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:18,549
own brother but we do know just from

1070
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:21,460
research into pedophiles and and those

1071
00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:24,130
who have these kind of you know this

1072
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:26,079
kind of ailments I guess or these kind

1073
00:37:30,569 --> 00:37:28,210
of conditions that it does have an

1074
00:37:32,549 --> 00:37:30,579
effect on the human mind and and the

1075
00:37:35,069 --> 00:37:32,559
brain and it seems from the description

1076
00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:35,079
of the original case back in 2005 I mean

1077
00:37:39,569 --> 00:37:37,299
the reason that the lawyers say that the

1078
00:37:41,729 --> 00:37:39,579
victims were in the hundreds is because

1079
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,739
Epstein apparently just like would see

1080
00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:43,599
one girl for a massage and then an hour

1081
00:37:46,349 --> 00:37:45,039
later they bring in another girl and

1082
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:46,359
another you know it's like he was just

1083
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:50,170
addicted to this whole situation so I do

1084
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,249
think that there's definitely some

1085
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:52,960
psychiatric mental health issues going

1086
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:53,290
on

1087
00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:55,330
and you know that could that could have

1088
00:37:58,890 --> 00:37:56,470
played a role in the whole thing as well

1089
00:38:00,830 --> 00:37:58,900
yeah yeah we don't know whether he was

1090
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:00,840
on any type of meds

1091
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:04,330
exactly okay real quick let's just cover

1092
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:05,770
a couple other things you said that you

1093
00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:09,040
did research into whether Trump did in

1094
00:38:16,230 --> 00:38:11,950
fact cut ties with him yeah

1095
00:38:19,770 --> 00:38:16,240
so the typical story goes that Donald

1096
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:19,780
Trump kick Epstein out of mar-a-lago you

1097
00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:22,720
know prior to this all happening and so

1098
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:25,240
he has nothing to do with them so I

1099
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:28,600
started to investigate that shortly

1100
00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:30,220
after the documentary because in our

1101
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:31,780
documentary we do talk about the Clinton

1102
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:32,890
connections we talked about the Prince

1103
00:38:37,020 --> 00:38:35,680
Andrew and we mentioned Trump and some

1104
00:38:38,970 --> 00:38:37,030
of those who some folks who support

1105
00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:38,980
Trump like felt like I was unfair but

1106
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:40,630
why did you include Trump you know you

1107
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:42,010
know he kicked up scene out and so I

1108
00:38:45,870 --> 00:38:43,420
started to dig into like okay where does

1109
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:45,880
this claim come from why is it being

1110
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:47,890
repeated and from what I found the only

1111
00:38:52,860 --> 00:38:49,630
the original and the main source for

1112
00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:52,870
this claim was James Patterson's book

1113
00:38:56,490 --> 00:38:55,270
filthy-rich which is James Patterson of

1114
00:38:58,290 --> 00:38:56,500
course the author who's known for

1115
00:38:59,630 --> 00:38:58,300
writing fiction and then he partnered up

1116
00:39:02,000 --> 00:38:59,640
with these two other journalists and

1117
00:39:05,850 --> 00:39:02,010
they wrote the book filthy rich I think

1118
00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:05,860
so I think 2015 or so and it dug all

1119
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:07,120
into epstein in the whole saga of

1120
00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:10,330
Epstein and so I downloaded the book and

1121
00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:11,500
I searched through it to try to find

1122
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:13,030
what they talk about and there's

1123
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:14,890
basically just like one or two lines and

1124
00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:18,160
it says you know that Epstein had tried

1125
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:19,840
to approach a young girl at mar-a-lago

1126
00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:22,090
because Mark Trump's mar-a-lago club is

1127
00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:23,350
right there in the same area as

1128
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:24,760
Epstein's house there within like ten

1129
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:27,490
minutes of each other and Epstein was

1130
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:29,680
known to be not a member of the club but

1131
00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:32,110
to frequent it because his partner Jose

1132
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:33,940
Jose Maxwell was involved there and

1133
00:39:37,350 --> 00:39:35,410
that's one of the places we know for

1134
00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:37,360
sure that she was recruiting young girls

1135
00:39:41,010 --> 00:39:39,070
was from Trump's mar-a-lago now that is

1136
00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:41,020
an essay in Trump knew but that's one of

1137
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:44,260
the things we know so the book

1138
00:39:49,860 --> 00:39:48,310
filthy-rich claims that Trump was made

1139
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:49,870
aware that Epstein had tried to recruit

1140
00:39:54,330 --> 00:39:51,970
some somebody's daughter from the club

1141
00:39:55,530 --> 00:39:54,340
and so he kicked Epstein out and and

1142
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:55,540
that was it and that's literally just

1143
00:40:00,360 --> 00:39:57,850
the only line that's in the book and so

1144
00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:00,370
I was like okay that's that's where it

1145
00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:02,140
comes from let me dig more into that and

1146
00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:03,880
then actually in December after my

1147
00:40:07,710 --> 00:40:05,260
December of this past year after my

1148
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:07,720
documentary came out I went to Florida

1149
00:40:10,650 --> 00:40:09,160
where there was a another one of the

1150
00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:10,660
trials related to Epstein it wasn't this

1151
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:12,280
main case that's going on now it was

1152
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:14,650
basically a side case related to a

1153
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:16,750
defamation lawsuit where the lawyer

1154
00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:18,400
Bradley Edwards who's been fighting for

1155
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:20,020
these women for the last ten years he

1156
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:22,270
was sued by Epstein a defamation lawsuit

1157
00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:23,770
where they accused him of just trying to

1158
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:25,390
extort you know Epstein and that these

1159
00:40:30,510 --> 00:40:27,910
claims were baseless so the lawyer

1160
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,520
counter sued him and anyways that was in

1161
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:32,079
Florida in December I went there to that

1162
00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:33,250
case and Epstein

1163
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:35,260
didn't show up but through his lawyers

1164
00:40:40,589 --> 00:40:39,310
he admitted like probably the closest

1165
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:40,599
and biggest admission to guilt that

1166
00:40:43,980 --> 00:40:41,770
we're ever gonna get especially since

1167
00:40:46,589 --> 00:40:43,990
he's dead or wherever he's at and he

1168
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:46,599
said I you know these the claims of

1169
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:48,790
defamation are false and the reason I

1170
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:50,710
filed this lawsuit was because mr.

1171
00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:53,440
Edwards was very successfully litigating

1172
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,390
against me and I wanted to admit it that

1173
00:40:59,099 --> 00:40:57,040
like you know this was just a libelous

1174
00:41:00,690 --> 00:40:59,109
lawsuit that Epstein had filed and so I

1175
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:00,700
went to that trial heard all that and

1176
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:02,050
then I actually interviewed Bradley

1177
00:41:05,790 --> 00:41:04,569
Edwards the attorney and when I asked

1178
00:41:07,230 --> 00:41:05,800
him about this I asked him about this

1179
00:41:09,059 --> 00:41:07,240
claim I said you know I there's this

1180
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:09,069
talk about steam kicking our Trump

1181
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:10,440
kicking Epstein out of mar-a-lago and

1182
00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:12,790
he's been researching this and working

1183
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:15,430
with the women for over 15 years now

1184
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:17,650
almost 15 years and he said that he also

1185
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:19,089
couldn't confirm those claims that he

1186
00:41:23,339 --> 00:41:21,250
had heard those claims but that he

1187
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,349
couldn't find any solid proof of that

1188
00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:25,599
and so to me there's another hole in

1189
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:27,430
that story and then just to kind of add

1190
00:41:31,290 --> 00:41:29,950
a little more context James Patterson

1191
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:31,300
the author who helped wrote this book

1192
00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:32,800
well shortly after writing that book

1193
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:35,020
James Patterson also wrote a book with

1194
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:37,359
Bill Clinton and then he did a book tour

1195
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:38,890
last year with Bill Clinton traveling

1196
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:40,630
around the country and James Patterson

1197
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:41,770
claims that the reason he wrote the book

1198
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:43,210
about Epstein is because he also lives

1199
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:45,520
in the Palm Beach area and he was

1200
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:47,140
neighbors with hep Steen and he hates

1201
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:49,270
Epstein and he wanted to expose him but

1202
00:41:52,620 --> 00:41:50,560
I find it really interesting that this

1203
00:41:54,690 --> 00:41:52,630
guy Patterson who claims that he hates

1204
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:54,700
up Cena wants to expose him then turn

1205
00:41:58,890 --> 00:41:56,530
around and write a book and travel and

1206
00:42:00,359 --> 00:41:58,900
tour with Clinton Bill Clinton who we

1207
00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:00,369
know is also kind of tied into these

1208
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:04,780
same circles and then since the you know

1209
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:07,089
Epstein was arrested Patterson came out

1210
00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:08,319
and started doing interviews where he

1211
00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:09,849
again started repeating this claim that

1212
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:11,500
you know that Trump had kicked Epstein

1213
00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:12,940
out of mar-a-lago and then within days

1214
00:42:17,309 --> 00:42:15,369
Trump makes a public statement and says

1215
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:17,319
you know I kicked that guy out long ago

1216
00:42:21,490 --> 00:42:19,630
I had nothing to do with him so I'm just

1217
00:42:22,690 --> 00:42:21,500
hesitant to

1218
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:22,700
those claims because again we don't have

1219
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:24,590
any documentation or any proof of it and

1220
00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:26,270
I also started to look into two of the

1221
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:27,830
other journalists who were involved in

1222
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:29,930
the writing of that book and one of them

1223
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:32,960
has a whole career of being basically

1224
00:42:37,870 --> 00:42:35,930
having to make statements you know

1225
00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:37,880
apologizing for false reporting and

1226
00:42:41,770 --> 00:42:40,070
things of that sort so I do think that

1227
00:42:43,210 --> 00:42:41,780
there's reasons to be skeptical those

1228
00:42:44,830 --> 00:42:43,220
claims again these are just some of the

1229
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:44,840
things that online get repeated ad

1230
00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:48,350
nauseam over and over and over but we

1231
00:42:51,370 --> 00:42:49,910
don't have a lot of solid backing for it

1232
00:42:52,750 --> 00:42:51,380
but I do see this often where people pop

1233
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:52,760
up on my channel and say you know Trump

1234
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:54,170
kicked him out how dare you mention this

1235
00:42:57,790 --> 00:42:56,330
name and I mean I try to stick to the

1236
00:42:59,230 --> 00:42:57,800
facts like I said I'm happy to speculate

1237
00:43:01,300 --> 00:42:59,240
and have a conversation like that but

1238
00:43:03,790 --> 00:43:01,310
when it comes to facts we don't know

1239
00:43:05,170 --> 00:43:03,800
that yeah that's a great connection I

1240
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:05,180
I'm actually reading the James Patterson

1241
00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:08,690
book right now but I had forgotten

1242
00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:11,120
because you've now reminded me that why

1243
00:43:15,850 --> 00:43:13,100
I guess I didn't know that that that he

1244
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:15,860
had done a book with Clinton but isn't

1245
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:18,890
that interesting and suspect because

1246
00:43:25,210 --> 00:43:20,770
I've seen Patterson interviewed recently

1247
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:25,220
where he 100% clears Bill Clinton of

1248
00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:27,890
wrongdoing associated with Epstein so

1249
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:30,200
here he is being interviewed as one of

1250
00:43:34,030 --> 00:43:31,970
the foremost authorities on Epstein

1251
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:34,040
because you wrote the book on Epstein

1252
00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:37,010
and boy you really you know outed

1253
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:39,470
Epstein in this book but when they asked

1254
00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:41,630
about Clinton know Clinton absolutely

1255
00:43:45,610 --> 00:43:43,670
knew nothing about anything and I think

1256
00:43:47,650 --> 00:43:45,620
that's suspicious as well because like I

1257
00:43:49,540 --> 00:43:47,660
said he you know for somebody who did

1258
00:43:52,060 --> 00:43:49,550
all this deep digging it seems like he's

1259
00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:52,070
essentially playing cover for people

1260
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:53,480
involved now again I know some folks

1261
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:55,010
think that it's mainly the Clintons are

1262
00:43:57,610 --> 00:43:56,570
involved or it's mainly Trump and or

1263
00:43:59,020 --> 00:43:57,620
maybe it's both I don't know I don't

1264
00:44:00,310 --> 00:43:59,030
have a vendetta against either one of

1265
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:00,320
these people I'm not a Democrat or

1266
00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:01,520
Republican I'm not trying to like you

1267
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:03,590
know play the party line here but I do

1268
00:44:06,670 --> 00:44:05,210
find it interesting that as you said the

1269
00:44:09,310 --> 00:44:06,680
guy who's sort of seen his writing like

1270
00:44:11,350 --> 00:44:09,320
he wrote the book on Epstein a few years

1271
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:11,360
back is out there and he is kind of

1272
00:44:14,050 --> 00:44:13,010
giving this sort of I don't think any

1273
00:44:15,490 --> 00:44:14,060
one of them knew I don't think either

1274
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:15,500
one of them knew what was going on

1275
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:16,370
you know they were just friends with

1276
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:18,110
this and I mean it's really hard to

1277
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:20,090
believe that when so many people knew

1278
00:44:23,860 --> 00:44:21,710
when these women talk about you know

1279
00:44:25,450 --> 00:44:23,870
coming to contact with with Epstein and

1280
00:44:27,070 --> 00:44:25,460
to his friends that none of these people

1281
00:44:30,310 --> 00:44:27,080
had any idea I mean that's just I think

1282
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:30,320
that really well and Clinton Clinton has

1283
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:33,050
said virtually nothing you know I mean I

1284
00:44:37,390 --> 00:44:34,640
don't think he's even come out

1285
00:44:41,049 --> 00:44:37,400
and said his he come out and said that I

1286
00:44:42,490 --> 00:44:41,059
cut ties as of a certain date no I don't

1287
00:44:44,799 --> 00:44:42,500
think either one of them have really

1288
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:44,809
clarified you know that's the thing is I

1289
00:44:48,130 --> 00:44:46,609
mean the Clinton has been the most

1290
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:48,140
silent on this if anything right I think

1291
00:44:50,890 --> 00:44:49,369
the Clinton may have made a statement

1292
00:44:52,569 --> 00:44:50,900
after Trump you know tweeted something

1293
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:52,579
about the Clintons or whatever but other

1294
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:55,730
than that they haven't said on this day

1295
00:44:59,710 --> 00:44:57,680
and time or this point we you know we

1296
00:45:00,700 --> 00:44:59,720
distance ourselves know : the Clintons

1297
00:45:02,109 --> 00:45:00,710
got the sorry to interrupt but the

1298
00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:02,119
Clinton's got the very odd statement

1299
00:45:07,539 --> 00:45:04,940
where he just refers to a period of two

1300
00:45:08,980 --> 00:45:07,549
years when I went on X number of flights

1301
00:45:10,779 --> 00:45:08,990
with him I forgot what two years it was

1302
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:10,789
that they that they identified in the

1303
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:12,140
statement but he issued a statement that

1304
00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:15,170
said during the years I don't you know

1305
00:45:17,859 --> 00:45:16,910
what years it was I can't remember the

1306
00:45:19,059 --> 00:45:17,869
years but yeah I know what you're

1307
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:19,069
referring to they talked about like

1308
00:45:22,779 --> 00:45:20,930
different people flying with Epstein to

1309
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:22,789
Africa Africa on his plane to do like

1310
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:24,710
some aids you know charity work and this

1311
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:26,210
and then yeah I mean but nowhere in the

1312
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:27,650
statement does it say that those are the

1313
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:29,089
only flights I took with them and as it

1314
00:45:32,019 --> 00:45:30,650
turns out now apparently there's about

1315
00:45:33,819 --> 00:45:32,029
forty five flights that he took with him

1316
00:45:36,759 --> 00:45:33,829
based on plate logs and yeah and they

1317
00:45:39,279 --> 00:45:36,769
haven't tried to debunk or disprove that

1318
00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:39,289
in any way I mean so they're not really

1319
00:45:42,670 --> 00:45:41,000
hoping their case with the silence and

1320
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:42,680
this is of course why we're in a

1321
00:45:47,710 --> 00:45:44,000
position that we're describing where

1322
00:45:50,410 --> 00:45:47,720
there's a lot of speculation yeah all

1323
00:45:52,269 --> 00:45:50,420
right well what's what's the next thing

1324
00:45:55,269 --> 00:45:52,279
you think we're gonna we're gonna learn

1325
00:45:57,519 --> 00:45:55,279
that we don't know yet well you know I

1326
00:46:00,400 --> 00:45:57,529
think that what we need to what we're

1327
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:00,410
gonna see coming up is well let me just

1328
00:46:02,799 --> 00:46:01,609
say a little bit about what I'm focused

1329
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:02,809
on as far as that like I said I'm gonna

1330
00:46:08,769 --> 00:46:06,049
look into this this claim about the cop

1331
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:08,779
the cop himself and see if I can find

1332
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:10,880
any more about that I am working on a

1333
00:46:14,019 --> 00:46:12,529
part two about Jeffrey Epstein to try to

1334
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:14,029
dig more into this I hope to get in

1335
00:46:17,579 --> 00:46:15,410
touch with Bradley Edwards the attorney

1336
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:17,589
because I think he has more to say and

1337
00:46:21,009 --> 00:46:19,849
you know some through some associates

1338
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:21,019
we've recently spoken to some

1339
00:46:23,799 --> 00:46:22,609
journalists who've been covering this

1340
00:46:24,970 --> 00:46:23,809
and I don't want to say which

1341
00:46:27,099 --> 00:46:24,980
publication but a more mainstream

1342
00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:27,109
publication who also claim that they

1343
00:46:30,220 --> 00:46:28,430
have more information that they haven't

1344
00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:30,230
released yet so I do think that there's

1345
00:46:34,089 --> 00:46:32,299
going to be some more you know if not

1346
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:34,099
bombshells at least more pieces of the

1347
00:46:38,740 --> 00:46:36,710
puzzles to come in the coming days cool

1348
00:46:40,299 --> 00:46:38,750
well we will certainly direct people to

1349
00:46:42,759 --> 00:46:40,309
your website to support your campaign

1350
00:46:45,730 --> 00:46:42,769
for mayor I support your campaign for

1351
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:45,740
mayor thank you and wish you best of

1352
00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:46,730
luck in that and

1353
00:46:50,349 --> 00:46:48,859
can't let you go without because knowing

1354
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:50,359
our listeners they're all gonna want to

1355
00:46:54,130 --> 00:46:52,430
know what is that hanging on the wall

1356
00:46:55,660 --> 00:46:54,140
and what is the significance of it

1357
00:46:58,450 --> 00:46:55,670
because they're going to note some type

1358
00:47:00,340 --> 00:46:58,460
of conspiracy or ritual associated with

1359
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:00,350
what is that is that a deer it sentir

1360
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:02,090
I'm actually I'm in Portland right now

1361
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:03,680
I'm from Houston but I'm staying at an

1362
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:05,210
Airbnb with some friends and I'm like

1363
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:06,770
and I think this is supposed to be the

1364
00:47:12,010 --> 00:47:08,240
baby's room because there's a clear

1365
00:47:13,870 --> 00:47:12,020
behavior and so you nothing you know

1366
00:47:15,340 --> 00:47:13,880
nothing about that dear I know nothing

1367
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:15,350
about this dear feel free to speculate

1368
00:47:20,290 --> 00:47:18,890
on the symbolism in the map all right

1369
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:20,300
Derek thanks so much appreciate your